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Fish a Man Fish
Posted in Rock & Surf - Sep 22, 2017 - 08:55

Fishing Drones

I have been toying with the idea of using drones to drop baits a long time ago, even when there were no add on to drop baits. In the research that I did there were a few factors to consider. To start off one of them were flight path. By this I mean I have seen many helicopters and aeroplanes fly close to the shore, I am sure that they need to register a flight path plan before leaving the airport, don’t think the drone users register these path before use? If not then there could be issues of crashing of the drone with the planes. Reason I mention this is the toy planes that are used to fly, the hobbyist needs to fly in a designated zone. Next point that I thought about is the flight controller of the drone used GPS for the programming and this is all well until it fails, this then switches to sonar. Sonar will detect the distance from the drone to the ground. The water is not ground hence it will lower itself into the water reading the bottom of the ocean. Another issue is the motors are winded with copper, there is a certain amount of salt that would speed up the process of damage to the drone and this can become costly or even loss of the drone while flying. Another factor to consider would be injury to people. When things or flights go wrong and people are injured, is the angler insured for these mishaps? Lastly I am of the view that drones need to be purchased with the submission of a licence stating that the person has had training on the use and regulations of the use of the drone. With all these factors to consider my decision to peruse this idea soon drowned and I just carried on with the old school methods of angling that I still love and will always enjoy.

Adrian Durga
Sep 22, 2017 - 09:25

Very interesting topic, which requires a lot of insightful and technical answers and NOT the whole story of drone fishing being fake etc etc.

Lets hope someone has some answers to those question, i certainly do not haha.

Garnet Cornell
Sep 22, 2017 - 12:06

Apparently there is a major debate on the use of drones underway at present, especially from SAPS, as criminals are using the drones to monitor areas and houses.
There was comment passed by the Civil Aviation authority about the training and registration of drones and pilots, especially as they are being used for delivery purposes, and there is/was legislation being proposed in this regard.
Does any one else know of these proposed regulations?

Naeem Karim
Sep 26, 2017 - 08:54

small drone for recreational use dont need any licenses, for commercial use you need a license.

no flying within 10km of airport, no flying higher than 30km, no flying further than 500m from take off..

and obviously you will still get idiots that will take any good thing and turn it into a way of doing crime with it, b a responsible user and dont fly over peoples houses to spy, dont fly on a crowded beach..

Garnet Cornell
Sep 26, 2017 - 09:53

Thanks for the info. It appears that for some reason the civil aviation people are trying to stick their noses in, and to try and make money, apart from the input from the police and security forces.
I hope that it does not become reality as drones are fantastic pieces of kit

Naeem Karim
Sep 26, 2017 - 10:02

last time we heard thats getting this license was over 30k, dont know how true but thats what was told.

The problem is with guys using drones irresponsibly, its hard to govern drone users. You will always get the hooligan crowd that will cause it for everybody...

Its like the on going pier battle, because of the few that mess, poach and leave the place in the mess. the piers will stay closed.

Garnet Cornell
Sep 26, 2017 - 11:54

unfortunately the reckless and selfish few who ruin it for others

Ronald Mathuray
Sep 29, 2017 - 08:51

Just to shed some light on this topic, here is an official release from the South African Civil Aviation Authority (SACAA)

Drastic increase in the number of drones in RSA

Drone operators urged to abide by applicable laws

[Johannesburg] A review of the South African Aircraft Register over a 12-month period shows a dramatic increase in the number of registered remotely piloted aircraft systems, commonly known as drones, from 216 in January 2016, to 465 in January 2017.

Similarly, a comparison of statistics between January 2016 and January 2017 indicates an increase in the number of remote pilot’s licences issued, i.e. from 33 in the previous year to 368 in 2017.

“The substantial increase in the number of registered RPAS and associated licences in the country is not a surprise at all. In fact, the increase has always been envisaged as the rapid advancement of this technology and its potential use in commercial and other activities make RPAS appealing to many prospective operators. However, the low cost and easy availability of RPAS mean that anyone can acquire and utilise these aircraft; and therein lies the concern, as some owners may use these aircraft in a manner that contravenes civil aviation regulations and other laws,” explained Simon Segwabe, Executive: Aviation Safety Operations at the South African Civil Aviation Authority (SACAA).

Remotely piloted aircraft systems are categorised as aircraft across the globe; hence authorities are eager to swiftly integrate these aircraft into the existing manned aviation sector and civil airspace, which is relatively safe, secure, and highly organised.

“The main concern for regulators such as the SACAA is the increasing number of unregistered and unapproved RPAS operations that are taking to the skies illegally and are being potentially operated by unlicensed individuals. It is estimated that for every registered and licensed remotely piloted aircraft taking to the skies, there are two or three more doing so illegally,” Segwabe asserted.

According to Segwabe there are many RPAS enthusiasts and entrepreneurs who have none or limited knowledge of the aviation industry, and thus remain oblivious to the serious risks that they pose to other airspace users by not abiding by the applicable civil aviation regulations.

“The reality is that in most instances RPAS are made with consumer-grade electronics, with uncertified and often untraceable hardware and software. The failure rates of some of these aircraft are indeterminable, as there are currently no civil certification standards available anywhere in the world. Although these aircraft are much smaller and lighter than existing manned aircraft, their presence in the skies still present a significant risk to other airspace users, persons, and property on the ground. A collision of an RPAS and a helicopter or a jet full of passengers could lead to a catastrophic disaster.”

Increase in reports of invasion of privacy

The SACAA is urging RPAS owners and operators to familiarise themselves with the applicable civil aviation regulations, as well as other laws enforceable by other State entities.

“The increasing number of reported incidents of RPAS flying into other people’s properties without permission, or following individuals around, is of concern. We urge RPAS owners and operators to respect the privacy of others.”

Hefty fines for failure to abide by the rules

RPAS operators who fail to adhere to civil aviation regulations could receive a 10-year prison sentence or a fine of R50 000, or both. Individuals that use RPAS in an irresponsible manner may also face legal liability for breaking laws enforceable by other government agencies.

According to civil aviation regulations, no remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) shall be operated, unless such an RPA is registered with the SACAA and has been issued with a letter of approval. No person shall operate an RPAS unless that person has been issued with a valid remote pilot’s licence.

Regulations prohibit the flying of an RPA directly overhead any person or group of people, or within a lateral distance of 50 metres from any person, structure or building. An RPA may not be flown into any property without the permission of the property owner.

The SACAA urges RPAS pilots to adhere to all the limitations and restrictions as outlined in the regulations, notably that:

- an RPA should always be in a fit-to-fly condition with the relevant authorisation to fly;
- the aircraft is not flown in a formation or swarm;
- the aircraft is not flown 400 feet above the surface or within a radius of 10 kilometres from an airport;
- the aircraft is not flown adjacent to or above a nuclear power plant, prison, police station, crime scene, court of law, national key point or strategic installation.

“The SACAA remains excited about the immense benefits and prospects offered by this technology, and hence we are working on initiatives that will foster more RPAS innovation and rapid integration into the South African airspace. However, we appeal to all stakeholders, including retailers, to make a concerted effort to adhere to all the applicable laws,” Segwabe concluded.


SA Civil Aviation Authority
Private Bag X73
Halfway House
1685
Tel: (011) 545 1000
Fax: (011) 545 1201
Website: www.caa.co.za

Les Ward
Sep 29, 2017 - 11:01

This is merely a brief summation of the SACAA regulations covering the "recreational" operation of so called Drones. There are in fact very few beaches close to the Durban and adjacent coastline where one can legally fly.

Les Ward
Sep 29, 2017 - 11:08

Hi Naeem
You don't need a license to fly a "drone " for non-commercial purposes, you must, however, comply with SACAA regulations.